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So at the end of The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter, before Kaguya-hime is repatriated to the moon she leaves the Emperor, who'd been a suitor, a letter and some of the elixir of life. Declaring that if he can't have her, he doesn't want to live forever, the Emperor burns the letter and elixir -- or more precisely, has them burnt -- on a high mountain so that the smoke and vapor will rise up to reach her in heaven as a sort of lover's last message. Or at any rate, he'd be rid of it. In some versions of the story, this is the origin of the smoke rising from Mt. Fuji's caldera.

To which I can only go -- wait, what now?

Not that the emperor abjures the stuff -- that works just fine, in narrative terms. It's just, the method seems ... chancy. Even if you assume the order was carried out to the letter, can an elixir of life really be disposed of that way? Can a bonfire loft smoke all the way to the heavens? Can a mortal fire destroy an immortal elixir? If it can, would the results be non-toxic?

So, so many holes in this story.

[Poll #1760654]
---L.

Date: 10 July 2011 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhinemouse.livejournal.com
So clearly the soldier(s) who kept some of the elixir (or stole the ash) used it to become one of those sinister wealthy families that turn up so often in manga.

And I don't know whether what happened is that Kagura smelled the smoke, realized the Emperor would die, and her feather-robe fell apart, or whether it was all caused by the elixir being on the earth, or both--but obviously the problem is that she remembered her love for earth and has spent centuries in IMMORTAL AGONY.

(Or she tried to kill herself but the elixir being on earth bound her somehow so it's been centuries of UNDEAD AGONY.)

So there must be some sort of moon-powered plot to reassemble the feather-robe and give her peace. And the heroine, who is Kagura reborn or Kagura given amnesia or is connected to Kagura in some other way (or is the Emperor's long-lost descendant?)--and obviously also goes to the same high school as the hottie scion of the elixir-wielding family--must complete the task for some desperate reason. With Mad!for!REVENGE! Kagura making guest appearances as a ghost/alternate personality/vision because she's been forced into eternal sleep and can only affect people through dreams.

Cue magical girl plot-coupon quest, where the sting is that if she ever completes her task, she will forget everyone she ever loved. Or she's forgetting a little more each time she finds a feather. (Like Tsubasa RC in reverse!) Cue ANGST, except for when they all go to the hot springs.

Date: 10 July 2011 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhinemouse.livejournal.com
Well, something like it. Less moon, more love triangles, bonus incest (kind of), and one of the blander love interests I've ever read. I couldn't really get into it.

I've never read anything by Reiko Shimizu, so maybe I should check her out!

Date: 10 July 2011 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhinemouse.livejournal.com
Edit function disabled! CURSES!

Someday I will learn to tell the difference between "Kagura" and "Kaguya," but evidently not today....

Date: 10 July 2011 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
. . . yeah, there may be a story in this somewhere.

Date: 11 July 2011 04:22 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I dunno, man, I'm not sure if as an heir to the glories of Classical civilization and the Abrahamic religions you really have a neutral position when it comes to having valuable items burned so that supernatural beings will smell the fumes from heaven. --Matt

Date: 11 July 2011 06:28 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oh, fair enough. In that case, obviously what happened is that the 1707 eruption of Mt Fuji made everyone alive in Edo at the time immortal (because the elixir works homeopathically, why not, the more you dilute the more effective it is), meaning that by the time Perry arrived Japan was run by an elite of extremely crafty immortals who used their extended lives to study science and had therefore already invented time travel.

sometimes I am absurdly literal-minded

Date: 11 July 2011 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com
It's just an explanation for an ateji, innit?

I dunno, I tend to think that Kaguya-hime saw the smoke but, having been brainwashed into being an affectless immortal moon person, didn't give a damn. BUT I would be happy to read a version of the story in which the smoke convinces her to return to Earth & be badass again!

B/c it's not really 'her' elixir, it's just some elixir she obtained for the emperor.

Re: sometimes I am absurdly literal-minded

Date: 11 July 2011 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com
Which is a common folk practice from all over, really.

Good to know!

In the text we read, and I have no idea about its provenance (part of the problem with TTM, as you know L, is the centuries-long gap between composition and being written down), she got it from the moon-king. The logic of why he allowed her to do so, we weren't quite clear on, since a few lines earlier, as you know L, he prevents her from sneaking some to her earth parents. There are clearly a lot of gaps in this story, you are right!

Re: sometimes I am absurdly literal-minded

Date: 11 July 2011 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com
Oh cripes, I don't know; we work from photocopies. *checks* This might be the Akiyama Shoten version? I'm really not sure. One that has highly questionable critical apparatus, that's for sure! Half the notes were blatantly wrong and/or pushing a very thin Buddhist interpretation, but they did put okurigana on most of the kanji, which was the more important thing.

Apparently the textual tradition is not good (lots of mss, no clear authoritative lineage), and TTM is less popular than the Heian greatest hits, so no crackerjack editor has really undertaken to put together an authoritative recension.

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