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One of the most memorable scenes of the Iliad that does not involve murder, mayhem, or lamentation is Hera’s seduction of Zeus, the so-called Dios apatē, in book 14. It is a fascinating episode for reasons that involve not just the themes and plot of the Iliad, but also possible issues of performance, attitudes towards the divine cosmos inside the epics, and engagement with other narrative traditions.

The length and tone of this episode often prompts readers to recall the song of Demodocus in book 8 of the Odyssey. There, a bard sings a somewhat bawdy tale of when Hephaestus caught Aphrodite and Ares in flagrante. Interpreters have demonstrated how the content of that inset song reflects the singer responding to the action around him (crafting a tale that praises the mysterious guest Odysseus) while also reflecting primary themes of the Odyssey itself. The length and content of the tale, moreover, have led some to see it as, at the very least, a Homeric representation of what epic (or epic-like) singers would do. Like the tale of the tryst of Aphrodite and Ares, the Dios apatē effects a comic tone, providing distraction from ongoing tensions, and exploring the difference between mortal and immortal worlds by showing how frivolous and foolish the gods can appear. We can imagine the Dios apatē as a kind of set piece, a reflection on Zeus’ limitations as a masculine god.

In such a resonance, the scene also engages with the history of the divine cosmos and threats of succession or theomachy. The story of Hesiod’s Theogony is in part about how strong male gods are undone by desire, overcome eventually by a goddess’ guile. These patterns are refracted into the Dios apatē, by which I mean they are represented within it, but not in a one-to-one correspondence. Zeus’ power in the Iliad resides in part in his overwhelming force, but it is made manifest as well in his ability to advance his plan, the Dios boulē. Hera subverts this plan and temporality upends divine political structures by tricking him. She makes it possible for a rival to contest Zeus’ will on the battlefield–as a result, a significant part of the story in book 15 is about Zeus reasserting control and getting his plan back on schedule.

As Lenny Muellner explores in The Anger of Achilles and Laura Slatkin establishes in The Power of Thetis, the cosmic structures and struggles from the Theogony (and similar narrative traditions) shape and inform the structure and reception of the Homeric epics. Zeus’ fallibility, his vulnerability to desire, is a theme from other traditions that is important for the Iliad as well: in just 4 books, Agamemnon will ‘apologize’ to Achilles by claiming that he was blinded (using the word atē, echoed in  Dios apatē) just as Zeus was when he bragged about the birth of Herakles. Such a framework makes Agamemnon guilty for disrupting the political stability of the Achaeans because of the debate over Briseis. In a way, Agamemnon’s fight with Achilles over a girl is an echo of the cause of the whole war, Paris’ conflict with Menelaos, initiated by kidnapping Helen. There may be intratextual commentary supporting this as well. As Ann Bergren suggests, there are also strong echoes between Zeus’ attempt to get Hera to sleep with him and Paris’ entreaties to Helen in book 3 (their closing lines are identical: ὡς σέο νῦν ἔραμαι καί με γλυκὺς ἵμερος αἱρεῖ. ).

The danger of desire and the fallibility of male figures thanks to it connects the  Dios apatē with the overall plot of the Iliad and the larger narrative arc of the Trojan War. Through each case, such longing threatens disorder by upending Zeus’ plans. So, while the  Dios apatē is amusing and provides what some might see as a welcome respite from the battle books, it is thoroughly serious in probing the causes of conflict and the consequences of masculine weakness.

“’Cause I see some ladies tonight that should be havin’ my baby (uh), baby (uh)” from “Big Poppa”, The Notorious B.I.G.

One ‘cause’ of the Trojan War is Zeus’ anxiety about being overthrown by a son. As the story goes, this is the secret knowledge shared with Prometheus: the identity of a sea nymph who would bear a son greater than his father. Zeus’ sex-capades, then, represent a threat to the order of the entire universe and the entire set up for the Trojan War, starting with the marriage of Peleus and Thetis to preserve Zeus or one of his brothers from fathering an unstoppable son. The Iliad is rather tight-lipped about all of this but, again as Laura Slatkin has shown, the themes and implications of such a succession permeate the epic.

Another significant text for understanding this passage is the Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite. Let’s review the basic plot of the  Dios apatê first

  • Hera comes up with the plan (160) to distract Zeus with sex

  • She lies to Aphrodite about it and says she is going to use her charms to get Kronos and Rhea to love each other again, Aphrodite consents, but with the somewhat odd “it would be neither possible nor proper for me to deny your request, since you lay in the embrace of Zeus, the best one”(οὐκ ἔστ’ οὐδὲ ἔοικε τεὸν ἔπος ἀρνήσασθαι·  / Ζηνὸς γὰρ τοῦ ἀρίστου ἐν ἀγκοίνῃσιν ἰαύει, 212-213) [The scholia inform us that Aristophanes and Aristonicus athetized this line)

  • Then she goes and bargains with Sleep who recalls another time he made Zeus unconscious and was punished. She ends up offering one of the Graces as a bride

  • She appears before Zeus, telling him the same lie she told Aprodite

  • Zeus falls for it and they have sex beneath cloud cover on the mountain.

When I teach the Hymn, I joke that it provides an etiology for why men fall asleep after sex; but I can’t imagine that the Iliadic passage doesn’t have a similar impact. Zeus’ speech in the midst of all of these offers somewhat of an odd example for seducing one’s spouse. But the catalogue is worth considering in the larger cosmic context.

Homer Iliad 14.323-328

“Cloud-gathering Zeus answered her
Hera, you can go there at some later time.
For now, let the two of us go to bed and turn to sex.
For never has lust for a goddess or woman
Ever overcome the force in my chest as it does now.
Not when I was lusting after the wife of Ixion
Who bore Peirithoos, a thinker equal to the gods,
Nor when I lusted after fine-ankled Danae Akrisios’ daughter,
Who gave birth to Perseus, the most outstanding of all men,
Nor when I went after the far-famed Phoenician girl,
Who gave me Minos and divine Rhadamanthys
Nor even when I was with Semele or Alkmene in Thebes.
The second one gave birth to my strong-willed son Herakles
And the first gave us Dionysus, that charm for mortals.
Not even when I lusted after the fine-haired lady Demeter
Nor again glorious Leto, or even you yourself!
Never have I longed the way I long for you now, as sweet desire overtakes me.”

Τὴν δ’ ἀπαμειβόμενος προσέφη νεφεληγερέτα Ζεύς·
῞Ηρη κεῖσε μὲν ἔστι καὶ ὕστερον ὁρμηθῆναι,
νῶϊ δ’ ἄγ’ ἐν φιλότητι τραπείομεν εὐνηθέντε.
οὐ γάρ πώ ποτέ μ’ ὧδε θεᾶς ἔρος οὐδὲ γυναικὸς
θυμὸν ἐνὶ στήθεσσι περιπροχυθεὶς ἐδάμασσεν,
οὐδ’ ὁπότ’ ἠρασάμην ᾿Ιξιονίης ἀλόχοιο,
ἣ τέκε Πειρίθοον θεόφιν μήστωρ’ ἀτάλαντον·
οὐδ’ ὅτε περ Δανάης καλλισφύρου ᾿Ακρισιώνης,
ἣ τέκε Περσῆα πάντων ἀριδείκετον ἀνδρῶν·
οὐδ’ ὅτε Φοίνικος κούρης τηλεκλειτοῖο,
ἣ τέκε μοι Μίνων τε καὶ ἀντίθεον ῾Ραδάμανθυν·
οὐδ’ ὅτε περ Σεμέλης οὐδ’ ᾿Αλκμήνης ἐνὶ Θήβῃ,
ἥ ῥ’ ῾Ηρακλῆα κρατερόφρονα γείνατο παῖδα·
ἣ δὲ Διώνυσον Σεμέλη τέκε χάρμα βροτοῖσιν·
οὐδ’ ὅτε Δήμητρος καλλιπλοκάμοιο ἀνάσσης,
οὐδ’ ὁπότε Λητοῦς ἐρικυδέος, οὐδὲ σεῦ αὐτῆς,
ὡς σέο νῦν ἔραμαι καί με γλυκὺς ἵμερος αἱρεῖ.

This list provides something of a retrospective timeline: Zeus starts with his more mortal children and goes back until he is talking about the birth of divine figures like Apollo and Artemis. The list is a bit of a classic example of the rhetorical practice of saving the best for last, but it pointedly closes off the possibility of new children or at least of children who may threaten the divine order. In part, this list exists in a concretized Pantheon, one where, for whatever pain it causes, Zeus’ dalliances do not disrupt the stability of the universe. And, for this case, it is certainly true: Zeus’ desire only disrupts the plan of the Iliad–a sex act with his own wife/sister cannot produce an heir to challenge him.

Aphrodite and Adonis. Attic red-figure squat lekythos, ca. 410 BC.

In this framework, the Dios Apate seems to also engage with the Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite. Even though the Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite exists prior to the Trojan War in our conceptual timeline, its narrative and concerns co-exist with the Homeric poems we know. (See Barbara Graziosi’s and Johannes Haubold’s Homer: The Resonance of Epic for a great overview of the relationship between Homer and Hesiod, including the Homeric Hymns.) Foremost among the concerns of that Hymn is the power Aphrodite has to overwhelm Zeus and other gods, to destabilize the Universe by creating new offspring. Rather than being a hymn that increases or explains Aphrodite’s influence (as in the Hymns to Demeter and Hermes), this Hymn curtails it by showing Zeus turning the tables on her and humiliating her by forcing her to lust after a Trojan mortal (Anchises) on the side of Mount Ida (on the reproach and humiliation of this scene, see Bergren 1989).

Here are some motifs shared by the Hymn and the epic scene:

  • A goddess readies for a Romantic tryst near Mt. Ida

  • The preparations are elaborate given the context

  • The goddess demures, offering a plan different from the covert one

  • The man begs/cajoles/convinces

  • The male figure falls to sleep

  • The seduced figure wakes up unhappy/angry/afraid

  • A speaker puts their situation in a mythic framework by telling a story of other examples

Peter Walcot (1991) notes that while both Anchises and Zeus are being seduced, they end up playing the role of seducer themselves, convincing their future lovers to have sex now rather than later. A significant difference, however, is that Aphrodite is disappointed and upset after having sex with Anchises; Hera runs off to fight as soon as Zeus falls asleep.

How we should understand the relationship between these scenes is a tough question to answer. A simple reading might see one narrative as building on or responding to the other, creating fixed allusions or intertexts. But given the other scenes at play (from the Odyssey, the Theogony, and even earlier in the Iliad) I think it is more likely that these kinds of stories were common and audiences had to interpret each one at the time of performance with reference to performances they had experienced before. 

Does this sequence make an effort to undermine or otherwise mock the power of desire? It appropriates the form of genealogical catalogues known elsewhere to illustrate the power of this desire. This partly advances other Homeric strategies, making the Homeric story the biggest and the best, but it also undermines Zeus’ authority at a critical time in the text (perhaps leading up to its re-assertion in book 15, offering a potentially favorable comparison for the Achaeans and human behavior in general).

Questions about the relationship between the Iliad and other narrative traditions ultimately cannot be answered because we don’t know what ancient audiences knew and what they would bring to a performance of Homer. What we can surmise, I think, is that humorous examples of divine sex were part of various song traditions and that they were used to different effects. The Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite can help us confirm that comic sex scenes can be deadly serious when seen from a cosmic perspective. In a way, the Dios apatê performs and confirms this, refracting, again, desire as a significant theme of the Trojan War narrative that impacts gods as well as men.

A starter bibliography on the deception of Zeus

n.b this is not an exhaustive bibliography. If you’d like anything else included, please let me know.

Bergren, Ann L. T. “‘The Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite’: Tradition and Rhetoric, Praise and Blame.” Classical Antiquity 8, no. 1 (1989): 1–41. https://doi.org/10.2307/25010894.

Brillet‐Dubois, Pascale, ‘An Erotic Aristeia: The Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite and its Relation to the Iliadic Tradition’, in Andrew Faulkner (ed.), The Homeric Hymns: Interpretative Essays (Oxford, 2011

Cyrino, Monica Silveira. “‘Shame, Danger and Desire’: Aphrodite’s Power in the Fifth Homeric Hymn.” Rocky Mountain Review of Language and Literature 47, no. 4 (1993): 219–30. http://www.jstor.org/stable/1348308.

Andrew Faulkner, The Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite: Introduction, Text, and Commentary. Oxford Classical Monographs. Oxford/New York: Oxford University Press, 2008. xv, 342. ISBN 9780199238040

Graziosi, B., and J. Haubold, 2005. Homer: The Resonance of Epic. London.

Muellner, L. 1996. The Anger of Achilles: Mênis in Greek Epic. Cornell

S. Douglas Olson, The Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite and Related Texts: Text, Translation and Commentary. Texte und Kommentare 39. Berlin: Walter de Gruyter, 2012

Parry, Hugh. “The Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite: Erotic ‘Ananke.’” Phoenix 40, no. 3 (1986): 253–64. https://doi.org/10.2307/1088842.

Podbielski, Le structure de l’hymne homeriqu a la lumiere de la tradition litteraire Wroclaw 1971

Segal, Charles. “The Homeric Hymn to Aphrodite: A Structuralist Approach.” The Classical World 67, no. 4 (1974): 205–12. https://doi.org/10.2307/4348003.

Slatkin, Laura. 2011. The Power of Thetis and Selected Essays. Hellenic Studies Series 16. Washington, DC: Center for Hellenic Studies. 

C. A. Sowa, Traditional T Homeric Hymns (Chicago 1984)

Walcot, Peter. “The Homeric ‘Hymn’ to Aphrodite’: A Literary Appraisal.” Greece & Rome 38, no. 2 (1991): 137–55. http://www.jstor.org/stable/642954.

not stitching

28 February 2026 12:53 pm
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Random art: Svetlana Gordon's Tiffany slipover, as in the lamps, I think. I have no plans to knit it! but it's pretty.
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I have spent the literal entirety of my legally adult life watching the country I was born into try to fait accompli its way into Armageddon and I have to say that it was not an enticing novelty a quarter of a century ago, either.

fuck

28 February 2026 06:49 am
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Why did I check the news when I got up?

important vulture updates

27 February 2026 11:01 pm
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Did you know vultures are sexually monomorphic? Females and males look so much alike that it's difficult to sex them unless you personally watch one lay an egg (and even then bird genes are delightfully unpredictable). Just another awesome vulture fact I learned from the raptor centre insta.

Further, condors (aka Really Big Vultures) can reproduce via parthenogenesis. Here are some excellent queer bird stickers. I have ordered the asexual condor and the trans kookaburra.

§rf§

Status

27 February 2026 02:47 pm
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Yu know the world situation, which adds its mite ( for definitions of "mite,"watch out for falling pianos) to the stress closer by. The worst of it is feeling helpless to do much besides donate money to the outer stresses and listen as I can to the inner. Which I have been doing, in spite of our income dwindling. But this is a common plight.

My brain did go into revolt, and a bit of OT3 fantasy comedy of manners unspooled itself over the past month and a half or so. I wouldn't mind that happening again because it keeps me busy--besides various books and TV shows. But none of those have lit my fire quite as much as having a brainmovie again.

I do have Katherine Arden's latest here, and it looks good. But it's called The Unicorn Hunters and appears to be based on the tapestries so splendidly displayed in New York. Very handsome tapestries, but whew. Those boys strutting their tight breeches and little short jackets and perfect hair were a bunch of brutes. The tapestries illustrate an exercise in human cruelty, and the news is kind of overflowing with that, so I'm waiting for the right mood for the book.

II've done some rereads, and some new reads, I continue to listen to audiobooks while trudging my daily steps.

Oh! edited to add: I watched the Plympics ice skating and ice dancing. Some really lovely stuff, though they do seem to be obsessed with the quad spin.

Never tasted anything like you before

27 February 2026 02:26 pm
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I was supposed to spend the afternoon with my husband and instead I am about to spend it at the doctor's. The one is obviously much preferable to the other. Have a photo I took yesterday when I was out and walking and thought I had a decent chance of doing something human with the end of my week.

You can be an emotional support animal

27 February 2026 09:11 am
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As you know, an emotional support animal is a companion that provides support to human individuals for a mental, psychiatric, or emotional disorder. These are often typical pet animals like dogs and cats, although other creaturesincluding plants — can improve your mental health.

Plants require a role reversal, though.

Animal companions for humans rarely get training, but you must train yourself to provide effective emotional support for plants. First, you must overcome plant blindness and see them as living beings. Then decide if you plan on supporting outdoor or indoor plants: gardening, rewilding your lawn, or sustaining indoor plants in pots?

If you already have plants, what kind do you have? Apps like Picture This and its website, Pl@ntNet, or guided observation and keys can help. Find out what that particular plant needs for warmth, light, and watering, and consider what you can offer.

Common houseplants are often jungle undergrowth plants, and your living room probably resembles a jungle floor in light and warmth — but check. Every plant has a niche, and it will suffer stress outside that niche. A cactus leads a very different life than a pothos, and small plants need more frequent care, sometimes daily, than big plants. Your first emotional support duty is to gauge your ability to minimize the plant’s stress.

“Moist” is a universally challenging concept when it involves soil, yet you must master it.

When you care for your plant, you will benefit both the plant and yourself. As you provide regular, attentive care, you may improve your own self-care. After all, you get by giving, and you learn responsibility by being responsible.

As the support animal, you will be rewarded by beauty and quiet companionship, and you will have created a supportive environment for the plant — and very possibly for yourself. Are you ready to change your life?


batiste

27 February 2026 07:19 am
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batiste (buh-TEEST, ba-TEEST) - n., a fine soft sheer fabric of plain weave of linen or/and cotton, cambric.


Some authorities claim it's a few specific kinds of cambric, while others that in French the two are synonymous, implying that it ought to also be so in English. Both terms come from Picardy (the region bordering Belgium and the North Sea), cambric after the city of Cambrai but batiste is a little more obscure: stories that it's after 14th century weaver Baptiste of Cambrai have no historical basis -- instead, going by its historical Picard form batiche, it's probably from bat-, stem of battre, to beat/separate (fibres), which is what you do to prepare linen for spinning.

---L.
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This short memoir follows Jones' early life growing up as a gay Black kid in 1990s Texas, through his college years and young adulthood struggling with feelings of unbelonging and uncertain identity.

The core of the book is his relationship with his mother, who died of heart disease when he was 26. She was an iconoclast, breaking with her family's conservative Christianity to become a Buddhist, and insisted on doing things her own way, including raising her son on her own. The dynamic between them is complex; he loves and respects her, and in many ways they're close and protective of each other, yet he doesn't feel truly seen by her. His sexuality is part of the barrier—she doesn't reject him, but is resistant to talking about it—and I also got a sense of her as a person who held others at arm's length because intimacy scared her.

But Jones is not too afraid to write about his most vulnerable, self-destructive, and howlingly painful moments. cut for content: gay bashing ) It doesn't read like he's being too harsh on himself, and it doesn't read like he's trying to make himself look good. It reads like he's found a narrative arc in what really happened rather than editing events into artificial tidiness.

Jones is primarily a poet, and the book's emotional clarity and concise lyricism bears that out. The material is heavy, but I didn't find it depressing. Rather, I felt that the fact that he's now able to write so honestly about what he's been through demonstrates that he's achieved what he's been longing for: knowing and sharing who he really is. He doesn't need to spell out that this happened for him, because when you read the book you're holding the evidence of it in your hands.

There's no kind of atmosphere

26 February 2026 05:29 pm
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I hope Rob Grant would take it in the intended spirit that when I heard the news of his sudden death, all I could think was "All most of us get is 'Mind that bus!' 'What bus?' Splat!" The first six and a half series of original flavor Red Dwarf (1988–99) were a social staple of my sophomore year of college, watched primarily in my case from the top half of a bunk bed occupied by a structurally unwise number of students who would shortly branch out into whatever British television comedy we could get hold of the tapes for. It became an immediate and ineradicable part of our language. Decades later, the number of quotations from especially the first three series that have worked themselves into my present household lingo would be difficult to estimate without a rewatch. In storage with the rest of my library, I still have some of the tie-in novels, including at least one of the separately authored parallel continuations, which unfortunately for this memoriam may have been Doug Naylor's. I cannot find that I ever saw another project of Grant's except for the first series of The 10%ers (1993–96) and I am still stricken to lose yet another artist while Kissinger's heirs don't even seem to be in this machine. Not everybody has to be dead, Dave.

Slay the Princess!

26 February 2026 11:00 pm
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I've finished a play through of Slay the Princess. I really enjoyed it! I will now try to go after all the achievements héhéhé

I had to turn off the parallax and the ambient sound so I wouldn't get nauseous. Something to keep in mind if you're sensitive to motion sickness and/or vertigo.

汉字; Rawr Edition.

26 February 2026 11:38 am
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 A couple of months ago, I declared my love for dinosaurs; especifically speaking about how their hold on cultural myths all around the world makes me really emo. 

And well well well, wouldn't you know what the term for 'dinosaur' in chinese is? Its '恐龍'! (Yes, we are traditional fans here...mainly because the information nuggets of meaning in traditional are well, there...mostly). I fear (heh) the chinese got me good this time, they were miles ahead of me in that certain hypothesis. 

Read more... )

Wisdom found in the Futility Closet

26 February 2026 10:49 am
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From


www.futilitycloset.com/2026/02/21/noted-29/



“A few precepts to repeat whenever you are in need of comfort,” by Gabriel Hanotaux, French minister of foreign affairs from 1894 to 1895:

  1. Anything can happen.
  2. Everything is forgotten.
  3. Every difficulty can be overcome.
  4. No one understands anything.
  5. If everyone knew what everyone said about everyone, no one would speak to anyone.


Above all things, never be afraid. The enemy who forces you to retreat is himself afraid of you at that very moment.”

(Via André Maurois’ The Art of Living, 1939.)

eprouvette

26 February 2026 07:28 am
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eprouvette (ay-proo-VET) - n., a fixed-elevation mortar formerly used to test the strength of gunpowder.


Used from the 17th to mid-19th century -- put in a standard shot and standard charge, and see how far the standard mortar flings it. Also done with small-arms powder with a standard pistol, but the mortar is better known form. From French éprouvette, from éprouver, to test, from Old French esprover, reconstructed Vulgar Latin form *exprobare, from Latin ex- + probare, to try/prove.

---L.

Read-in-Progress Wednesday

26 February 2026 11:34 am
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This is your weekly read-in-progress post~

For spoilers:

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microfiction

25 February 2026 07:07 pm
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Today's prompt word was "cascade" but what I ended up thinking about was apocalypse-revelation.

Have something portentous!

what level of apocalypse are you on? )

Anything you crave, a certain curse

25 February 2026 04:11 pm
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Stepping out of the house for a short walk around the neighborhood, I discovered that a friend had sent me a surprise gift in the mail and that between their post office and my doorstep it had been stolen. I received a gutted envelope slit down the side containing brown paper from which the gift had been shaken out. The stiff paper of the accompanying note had wedged hard enough into the envelope that after some stricken searching it was still in there; the handmade buttons and the picture were not. I assume the thief was looking for checks or more conventionally defined valuables, but it seems unspeakably cruel to let the envelope continue on its way and arrive to tell me what kindness I had been robbed of. I still have the note. The kindness itself did travel the distance. But I still want the thief to fall in front of a freight express.

Rory Stewart's legacy

27 February 2026 05:34 pm
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Local councils have a degree of flexibility in the recycling services they offer, and hitherto food waste collection has been optional. Some councils collect food waste, others don't, and Durham doesn't. But legislation is about to come into effect, which will require all councils to collect food waste: I've been thinking this was new legislation, but no, according to the Council officer whose talk we attended on Tuesday, this is something we owe to Rory Stewart, back when he was a junior minister (before he found his career in podcasting).

Talking rubbish )

tl:dr; version is that it doesn't really matter. We can carry on composting, and although we don't actually use compost, it means that we produce very little food waste. I just wish the County Council wouldn't behave as if I didn't exist. (I blame this less on the political make-up of the council, more on being a unitary authority; but that's another rant.)
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Posted by Joel

As I mention in the first post about Iliad 14, the book provides a structure that is built around three basic movements: the crisis of leadership among the Achaeans, resolved by Diomedes; a rallying of the Greeks on the field, led by Poseidon; the Dios apate, or deduction of Zeus, including Hera’s preparations and their Idaean assignation.

These scenes are connected both in terms of plot and theme around resistance to Zeus’ plan: the Greek captains rally and correct Agamemnon to maintain some unity; Poseidon intervenes to help the Greeks resist (and even wound) Hektor; and Hera, in coordination with Poseidon, distracts Zeus in order to support their resistance. Altogether, these three movements take us from the very serious human challenges of the opening panic, through a somewhat surreal but still ‘epic’ battle scene mixed with the gods, until it terminates in a comic, other-worldly Romantic tryst. There’s a unity and a wholeness to the book that reminds me of the three-movements in book 6.

Such neatness, if it can be called such, invites questions about design and the relationship between the parts of the Iliad and the whole. Anyone who picks up a translation of either epic today finds them neatly divided into 24 books each (even though the Iliad is 3000 lines longer than the Odyssey. What makes this a little suspicious is that in ancient Greek, the books are named after the 24 available letters of the alphabet. It is highly unlikely, moreover, that the division of books was established in the Archaic and classical period since once the Greeks adopted the 22 letters of the Phoenician alphabet, local dialects often had more than 24 letters (including variations like qoppa, digamma) and would assign received symbols (those we know for psi, ksi, and khi) to different sounds.  Indeed, the standard Ionic alphabet was not adopted in Athens until after the Peloponnesian War (c. 403 BCE).

Pseudo-Plutarch, De Homero 2.4

“Homer has two poems: the Iliad and the Odyssey, each of them is divided into the number of letters in the alphabet, not by the Poet himself, but by the scholars in Aristarchus’ school.”

Εἰσὶ δὲ αὐτοῦ ποιήσεις δύο, ᾿Ιλὰς καὶ ᾿Οδύσσεια, διῃρημένη ἑκατέρα εἰς τὸν ἀριθμὸν τῶν στοιχείων, οὐχ ὑπὸ αὐτοῦ τοῦ ποιητοῦ ἀλλ’ ὑπὸ τῶν γραμματικῶν τῶν περὶ ᾿Αρίσταρχον. 

So just how and where the book divisions of the Homeric epics came from has been something of a hot topic from time to time. The major arguments are:

  1. The book divisions were there from the beginning, because the alphabet was adopted to write Homer down

  2. The book divisions are features of smaller performance units

  3. The book divisions were a product of Hellenistic editing, following the adoption of a regular alphabet and the impetus to present standard, synoptic versions of epic

  4. The book divisions were a result of the process of dictating the poems: each one represents a day’s dictation, or something like that.

    Color photograph of a manuscript of Homer's Iliad
    Part of an eleventh-century manuscript, “the Townley Homer”. The writings on the top and right side are scholia.

What people call the ‘books’ of the Iliad often reveal some of their assumptions about their nature. Note, the passage above does not use the word biblion (although it is implied, I think). Other titles such as scrolls or rhapsodies see the performance units as possibly relating to scripts or readily performable episodes. I also worry about to what extent some of these models are divorced from the material reality of (1) the cost of transcription and copying and (2) a reading public accustomed to performance of epic.

There are challenges with each approach: we have no evidence of Alphabetic book distinctions before the Hellenistic period (when earlier authors talk about Homeric passages, they focus on episodes); we don’t have any evidence for book divisions as performance units, since many of the episodes referred to as potential performance pieces occupy parts of books rather than their whole; we have only anecdotal evidence supporting the creation of book divisions by Hellenistic editors, and that evidence is 3-5 centuries after the fact; and we have no direct evidence for the dictation and recording of the poems. Another early testimony about the book-divisions, discussed by Rene Nunlist, shows that early scholars emphasized the unity of the whole poems and saw the book divisions as sometimes artificial interventions.

The details of the arguments are interesting too. But here’s a summary of the issues from Steve Reece (2003):

2) All at once about ten years ago a great amount of attention began to be paid to the book divisions in the Homeric epics; more specifically, to how the twenty-four book divisions in our inherited texts of the Iliad and Odyssey are related to the historical performance units of these songs. The debate remains unresolved. On one end are those who regard the book divisions as reflections of breaks in the historic performance of an eighth- or seventh-century BCE bard. On the other end are those who regard them as Alexandrian—a result of serendipity (the fact that there are 24 letters in the Ionian alphabet) and, to a lesser degree, of the physical features of text-making during the Hellenistic period (the typical length of a papyrus roll). Somewhere in between are those who trace the book divisions to the first writing down of the epics in connection with their performance at one of the Greater Panathenaic Festivals in Athens in the late sixth century. Whenever, and for whatever reason, they occurred, most of the book divisions seem to have been chosen judiciously, coinciding with breaks in the narrative. Yet some clash with scene divisions, cutting right through a narrative segment or even a type-scene (e.g., Il. 5-6, 6-7, 18-19, 20-21; Od. 2-3, 3-4, 6-7, 8-9, 12-13, 13-14, 20-21). Hence there has developed some consensus among Homeric scholars that in performance a division into three or four major “movements” is to be preferred to the twenty-four book units. As a practical matter, I encourage my students to read through the book divisions of Homer, just as I encourage them, in their reading of other oral narratives, to disregard the artificial divisions imposed by textualization (verse, section, chapter, book divisions)—in the New Testament Gospels, for example. Not only does this practice better replicate the original performance units, but it also allows the modern reader to detect patterns and themes in the epic that are obfuscated by overadherence to book divisions. A recent and excellent summary of the debate on book divisions, with full appreciation of its implications for oral poetics, is Jensen 1999.

Scholars like Bruce Heiden (following others) argue with some efficacy for the structure of each book. Heiden argues (1998, 69)

“ The analysis will first consider the placement of the twenty-three ‘book divisions’. It will show that all the scenes that immediately precede a ‘book division’ manifest a common feature, namely that they scarcely affect forthcoming events in the story. All the scenes that follow a book division’ likewise display a common characteristic: these scenes have consequences that are immediately felt and continue to be felt at least 400 lines further into the story. Therefore, all of the twenty-three ‘book divisions’ occur at junctures of low-consequence and high consequence scenes. Moreover, every such juncture in the epic is the site of a ‘book division’.

The second stage of the analysis will examine the textual segments that lie between ‘book divisions’, i.e., the ‘books’ of the Iliad. It will show that in each ‘book’ the last event narrated is caused by the first, as are most of the events narrated in between. But the last event seldom completes  a program implied by the first. Thus the ‘books’ of the Iliad display internal coherence, but only up to a point. They do not furnish a strong sense of closure. Instead their outline is marked by a sense of diversion in the narrative at the beginning of each.”

I think that close readings of many of the books bears out some of Heiden’s argumentation here, but the problem is what the cause of this is, by which I mean is this a feature of our efforts as interpreters and the impact that the Iliad’s contents have had on the history of literature in its wake shaping our expectations or is this a matter of intentional design.

Steve Reece, in a later piece, emphasizes that approaches like this in general double down on ignoring the performance origins of the poems  (2011, 300-301):

“We may acknowledge the orality of Homeric epic, we may refer to it as performance, we may pay obeisance to the study of comparative oral traditions, but we remain addicted to our printed texts, our book divisions and line numbers, our apparatus critici, our concordances and lexica. We rarely try to reconstruct or even imagine a production of an epic performance.”

A combination of the work of Minna Skafte Jensen, Jonathan Ready, and Reece’s own fine essay ventures to imagine the performance context, but the first two tie it to the formation of the texts we have as well. (It is Jensen in her seminal debate from 1999 who suggests the book units are the product of a day’s transcription.) 

Simonides, fr. 6.3

“Simonides said that Hesiod is a gardener while Homer is a garland-weaver—the first planted the legends of the heroes and gods and then the second braided them together into the garland of the Iliad and the Odyssey.”

Σιμωνίδης τὸν ῾Ησίοδον κηπουρὸν ἔλεγε, τὸν δὲ ῞Ομηρον στεφανηπλόκον, τὸν μὲν ὡς φυτεύσαντα τὰς περὶ θεῶν καὶ ἡρώων μυθολογίας, τὸν δὲ ὡς ἐξ αὐτῶν συμπλέξαντα τὸν᾿Ιλιάδος καὶ Οδυσσείας στέφανον.

My take on the major issues presented here is that the final three approaches are reconcilable from an evolutionary perspective. The evolutionary model for the creation of the Homeric epics (on which, see Nagy 2004 and Dué 2018), posits a movement from greater flexibility to greater fixity over time. If we imagine Homeric epic already existing notionally between episodic performances and monumental events involving multiple singers, we can see these episodes more or less coalescing around smaller performance units that could be stitched together in grander performance contexts. Any process of textualization would necessarily include stages of dictation and transcription providing performance units that were largely coherent as a whole and which would present different levels of internal coherency based in the individual performance. As the whole cultural phenomenon was transferred from performance contexts around the Greek speaking world to the libraries of the Hellenistic cities, they would achieve a textual fixity and polish that would harden, where possible, the joins between books.

Just as in my metaphor for the cultivation of crops or trees, Homeric poetry would have been adapted and shaped over time by the performance context, the intervention of transcription and textualization, and the actions of editors imposing regularity and uniformity typical of literary traditions.

Other explanations require a textual culture for the poems at a much earlier period. This model, as well, helps to explain the unified, yet still organic and largely asymmetric shape of a book like Iliad 14.

A starter bibliography on Homeric Book Divisions

n.b this is not an exhaustive bibliography. If you’d like anything else included, please let me know.

Bachvarova, Mary R. 2016. From Hittite to Homer: The Anatolian Background of Ancient Greek Epic. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press.

Campbell, Malcolm. “Apollonian and Homeric Book Division.” Mnemosyne 36, no. 1/2 (1983): 154–56. http://www.jstor.org/stable/4431214.

Dué, Casey. 2018. Achilles Unbound: Multiformity and Tradition in the Homeric Epics. Washington, DC: Center for Hellenic Studies.

G. P. Goold. “Homer and the Alphabet.” Transactions of the American Philological Association, 91:272-91.

Graziosi, Barbara. 2002. Inventing Homer. Cambridge.

Bruce Heiden. “The Placement of ‘Book Divisions’ in the Iliad.” Journal of Hellenic Studies, 118:68-81.

Minna Skafte Jensen. “Dividing Homer: When and How Were the Iliad and the Odyssey Divided into Songs?” Symbolae Osloenses, 74:5-91.

Nagy, Gregory. 2004. Homer’s Text and Language. Urbana: University of Illinois Press.

Nünlist, René. “A Neglected Testimonium on the Homeric Book-Division.” Zeitschrift Für Papyrologie Und Epigraphik 157 (2006): 47–49. http://www.jstor.org/stable/20191105.

Barry B. Powell. Homer and the Origin of the Greek Alphabet. Cambridge: Cambridge University Presss

Ready, Jonathan. 2019. Orality, Textuality, and the Homeric Epics. 2019.

Reece, Steve. “Homeric Studies.” Oral Tradition, vol. 18 no. 1, 2003, p. 76-78. Project MUSE, https://doi.org/10.1353/ort.2004.0035.

Reece, Steve. 2011. “Toward an Ethnopoetically Grounded Edition of Homer’s Odyssey.” Oral Tradition, 26/2 (2011): 299-326. 

Brighton

25 February 2026 06:37 pm
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Brighton Seafront in the Drizzle 2

A few days off work. I was originally planning to go back to the Somerset Levels, but a) the Somerset Levels are currently underwater, and b) my car was making a weird noise. So I took the train to Brighton instead. Brighton was busy. Of course it was busy, it is a city, you fool. And it is surprisingly hard to get a proper pot of tea there. There are coffee shops galore, and shops offering bubble tea & matcha & chai... but I failed to find any old-fashioned tea rooms. Luckily I came across the café upstairs in Waterstones, had a pot of tea surrounded by books, and was saved.

Back home now. Brighton was grand. Grand & crumbling. I think I enjoyed it, despite the lack of tea, and the getting lost (a lot).

Regency grandeur )
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ETA: Code Tour: 2024-12-01 to 2026-02-25. Some longed for fixes in there. Hopefully we get a code push soon.


Fun Art & Stuff!
[youtube.com profile] PBSVoices: How Navajo Weavers Keep an Ancient Art Alive (Video: 10 minutes).
This short film follows two Navajo weavers whose work preserves memory, identity, and ancestral knowledge.
Very cool! I don't know anything about Navajo weaving, and would love to watch a longer project about it.

[community profile] spankulert: Icon post #122.
Including The X-Files, Star Treks: Starfleet Academy, Voyager + Discovery, Fallout and more.
Really nice to see the ST:SA icons!

[youtube.com profile] NationalTheatre: Take Your Seats | Announcement | National Theatre at Home (Video: 30 seconds).
On Thursday 12 March (7pm GMT), lose yourself in the hit production of The Importance of Being Earnest at our free YouTube premiere. Can’t make it? The stream will remain accessible on demand, for free, for one week only.
FINALLY! I believe it will go up on the NT's subscription streaming site after that.

The Tyee: They Lit the Path for Women Photographers.
A couple of exhibit reviews for shows I can't see. LOLSOB.

Nanaimo News Now: Nanaimo’s Maffeo Sutton Park shines during ‘Lighting a Path’ public art exhibit.
Really cool way to do an art show!

Dead Language Society: How far back in time can you understand English?
I made it to like the fourteen hundreds. I'm sure most of you can get further back.

[tumblr.com profile] ecc-poetry/Elisa Chavez: What You Need to Be Warned (Or: Inventory and Appraisement of Neil Gaiman, Hereafter "Decedent").
I'm going to nominate this for a poetry Hugo. I'm haunted by the line: Even at your worst, you are replaceable.


Technology Bullshit:
The Conversation: This TikTok star sharing Australian animal stories doesn't exist – it's AI Blakface.
Fantastic. Just what Indigenous communities need: computer-generated Pretendians.

Electronic Frontier Foundation: So, You’ve Hit an Age Gate. What Now?
Advice for how to proceed with age verifications, since that's going to be part of our fucking lives now.

The Tyee: AI Is the Elephant in the Newsroom. How Are Journalists Reacting?
Ask yourself, why are you using the tool to do this? Do I have nine other things to do, and this will make my life faster? Or am I trying not to pay a journalist?

404 Media: This App Warns You if Someone Is Wearing Smart Glasses Nearby.
You might have to get a free account to see this? Anyway, nice that people are trying to code around other people's appalling privacy violations? Even if you don't get the app (which I haven't), good info about the stupid smart glasses.


Gender Bullshit (mostly men, tbh):
Comics Beat: Multiple women accuse Spider-Gwen co-creator Jason Latour of misconduct.
This is actually a few years old, but I'd missed it at the time (or forgotten it entirely). FFS.

Maureen Ryan on BlueSky: 'll just add, as someone who's been doing investigative reporting for decades, all publications doing real journalism (i.e., not a sockpuppet or Some Guy on the Internet)--they have MANY layers of editorial & legal review.
Thread about how real journalism is supposed to work. In this section due to the inciting incident.

The Politics of Dancing: Abuse is still rife in dance music: Here's how we break the cycle.
Great essay about structural problems.

The Tyee: SOGI Is Under Attack. Educators Say It’s Never Been More Needed.
It's a municipal and school board election year in B.C., and I think we're in for a fucking fight. PROTECT OUR KIDS!
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Spanish poet Antonio Machado was born in Seville in 1875 and died in February 1939. His health failed while he was escaping Spain as its government fell to the Fascists at the end of its Civil War.

Spain had long been divided. Although its Civil War began in 1936, Machado named this split “the two Spains” in his book Proverbios y cantares (Proverbs and Songs), Poem LIII, in 1917, and the name stuck.

Roughly speaking, one side of the two Spains was conservative, religious, rural, and traditional; the other progressive, secular, urban, and modernist. There were also differences between regions and between people with privilege and people condemned to poverty. The split ran deep and complex.

As Machado wrote in this poem, twenty years before the brutal war began, one Spain had a death grip on its position, the other was just waking up, and the future did not look good:
 

Ya hay un español que quiere

vivir y a vivir empieza,

entre una España que muere

y otra España que bosteza.

 

Españolito que vienes

al mundo te guarde Dios.

Una de las dos Españas

ha de helarte el corazón.

 

My translation:
 

There now is a Spaniard who wishes

to live and begins to live,

amid one Spain that is dying

and another Spain that yawns.

 

Child of Spain, as you come

into the world, may God help you.

One of the two Spains

is going to freeze your heart.


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